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Katie: Whats up and welcome to the Wellness Mama podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com. And this episode is all about one thing referred to as autojuvenation, which is principally methods to use your physique’s personal regenerative means to appear and feel youthful. And I’m right here with Dr. Anthony Youn, who is called America’s holistic plastic surgeon. He’s a nationally acknowledged board-certified plastic surgeon who’s acknowledged as a pacesetter in his subject and creator of the bestselling books, The Age Repair, In Stitches, and Enjoying God. His public tv particular, The Age Repair with Dr. Anthony Youn, has been seen by hundreds of thousands. And he additionally hosts the favored podcast, The Holistic Plastic Surgical procedure Present.

He’s probably the most adopted plastic surgeon on social media with over 4.5 million subscribers on his YouTube channel and eight million followers on TikTok. And his new guide, Youthful for Life, is an entire holistic information to turning again the clock on the method of getting old with autojuvenation. And we go deep on that matter at this time, in addition to procedures he does and doesn’t advocate, how he thinks that a lot may be completed with out ever turning to surgical procedure to actually enhance pores and skin look and switch again the clock on getting old. And he provides some very particular ideas for this. He’s so well-spoken and such a pleasure to speak to. So, let’s be a part of Dr. Anthony. Tony, welcome. Thanks a lot for being right here.

Anthony: Thanks a lot for having me.

Katie: I’m actually excited for this dialog and to speak about how we will basically use our physique’s pure processes to age extra gracefully and even slower or reverse a number of the indicators of getting old. However earlier than we leap into that, I’ve a observe out of your bio that you simply as soon as performed guitar and sang in a Jimmy Buffett cowl band. And since we lately misplaced him, I might love to listen to this story and the way that began and what it was like.

Anthony: Yeah, I imply, I truly began taking part in guitar again in faculty, and I’m very mediocre of a guitarist and singer. And so, after I began my residency, I simply, I’ve at all times had this sort of artistic streak. And I believed, you understand, I’m this large fan of Jimmy Buffett. And I heard that there have been some people who find themselves occupied with placing a band collectively. So, I emailed a contact I had, and he mentioned, let’s do it. And we spent about, so I used to be, I did 5 years of residency. And through that point, we most likely did about 50 or 60 gigs the place we’d do like play at events, at bars and stuff. And it was my approach of, I believe, dwelling out a, if I may choose one job that I may have that I simply, there’s no approach I may ever do, however I might love can be like a rock star. And that was the closest that I’ll ever get to it. And as soon as I completed residency, I truly moved out to California. Since then, I’ve truly, and the band broke up, however since then I’ve performed for my church band sometimes and stuff like that. So, it’s, it was a variety of enjoyable, however. It was undoubtedly tiring as a result of as a resident, I might even have days the place I’d work 36 hours after which I would depart the hospital, get became my like tropical garments and go play from 10 p.m. to 2 a.m. at a bar after which be again to work the subsequent morning at 6 a.m. So, it was powerful, however it was enjoyable.

Katie: Wow, I can solely think about, however most likely a fantastic artistic outlet throughout an in any other case extraordinarily centered and intense interval of life. I really like that you simply did that and that’s truly an ideal springboard into what would be the bulk of our dialog at this time, which is the work that you simply do now and the numerous 1000’s of individuals that you simply’ve helped. I believe for sort of simply background and place to begin, you employ a time period that I’ve not heard earlier than, which I imagine is autojuvenation. And I might love so that you can clarify what which means and sort of a number of the background for this dialog.

Anthony: Yeah, so simply to provide the background, I completed cosmetic surgery residency coaching, and I did a yr fellowship in beauty cosmetic surgery out in Beverly Hills with one of many prime plastic surgeons there. Then I moved again to Michigan, and I began my apply again in 2004. And inside the subsequent most likely 5 to seven years, I reached what I believed was a pinnacle of success. On the time, as a surgeon, you gauge your success by the quantity of surgical procedure that you simply do. And we’re at all times taught in our residency and our coaching that the aim of being a surgeon is to deliver individuals to the working room. And so, I at all times imagine that that ought to be my aim.

After which a affected person fully modified that and flipped that the other way up for me. So, I believed I’d reached the head of success. And once you have a look at completely different fields of medication, particularly with surgical procedure, there’s at all times a surgical procedure that’s thought of the head. And for those who do this, you are feeling achieved. When you’re a normal surgeon, that’s the Whipple. It’s like an enormous most cancers surgical procedure that may take eight to 12 hours. In cosmetic surgery, it’s most likely the facelift. I imply, as a result of individuals could belief anyone to do their liposuction, however you can be darn certain if any individual’s gonna reduce in your face that you simply’re gonna be very picky about that. And so, about 5 to seven years into apply, I believed that I’d reached the head of success. I used to be having individuals flying in from everywhere in the nation to have me do their surgical procedure and their facelifts and all that. And I had a affected person that I did a faceless on, a very nice lady in her late 60s, and I did an operation on her that went completely. We truly saved her in a single day within the hospital only for routine monitoring. Then she went dwelling, and she or he went dwelling on a Friday morning, and that Monday morning I got here into the workplace with a message from her daughter, and the message was, “Why did my mother die?” She died that weekend just some days after I carried out a facelift on her, and it despatched me right into a tailspin. As a result of up till then, I’d by no means actually had a complication like that.

And so, I began wanting like, to start with, like what occurred right here? Is there one thing I may have completed to forestall this? And it seems she had a large coronary heart assault. Now we did have her see a heart specialist previous to her surgical procedure. She bought fully cleared. She had a stress check. All the pieces was constructive. There’s no cause why this could have occurred, but it did. And for months, I beat myself up over it. I used to be completely devastated. I thought of closing out my apply, and I actually re-looked at what am I doing with my job, with my profession, with my sufferers?

And I lastly got here to the conclusion that all the pieces I used to be taught about being a surgeon was improper. The aim shouldn’t be to get individuals to the working room. The aim ought to be the other. It ought to be, how do I hold individuals out of the working room, but hold them feeling nice about themselves and searching nice and all of that? And so, I actually began to spend years then wanting into various strategies of how do I get individuals the place they wanna be with out bringing them to surgical procedure? And I got here up with this idea of autojuvenation and it’s utilizing your physique’s personal regenerative talents to show again the clock, to offer you that look that you simply’ve needed, to show again 5, 10 years and enable you to to really feel higher about the way you look.

Katie: Wow, that’s fairly the extraordinary story. And I can solely think about what it was like to really have lived that have. However I really like that you simply introduced this up, particularly about surgical procedure, as a result of I do know for lots of the mothers listening, this is probably not one thing a lot of them have had, however I might guess many have at the least thought of the provision of all of the completely different choices associated to surgical procedure. I do know, weak for me personally, after having six infants, I’ve thought of several types of pores and skin elimination surgical procedure, for example. And I’ve at all times hesitated and by no means actually appeared into it critically due to simply understanding issues like fascia and the way related the entire physique is. I simply haven’t had a very good instinct about it. However I really like that you simply, having such a deep understanding of the surgical aspect, nonetheless got here to this conclusion and now assist individuals keep away from it. I’m curious for those who may stroll us by a number of the dangers that include surgical procedure and in addition a number of the methods round that, as a result of I believe that’s most likely a hope for lots of people to know there are different choices that it feels like that may work actually, very well.

Anthony: Yeah, and I believe that one of many surgical procedures I do a variety of are tummy tuck surgical procedures, and it’s primarily on mothers, individuals who’ve had, girls who’ve had a number of kids, their pores and skin has been stretched out, it doesn’t look or really feel the identical approach. Now, the dangers of surgical procedure begin with loss of life, and every time any individual involves see me in session and so they say, “Hey, what’s the worst factor that may occur, Dr. Youn?” I’ll say, “You might die.” I’ll do all the pieces in my energy to forestall that, and we’ll take all of the steps obligatory that we will to make this as secure as attainable, however it doesn’t matter what I do, like with this affected person who died after the facelift, you simply by no means know, and there’s a loss of life charge with elective surgical procedure, and it’s about one in 50,000 individuals who have beauty surgical procedure will die from the operation.

Now, normally it’s not as a result of a surgeon tousled, it’s normally anesthesia-related problems, underlying diseases, and that kind of factor, however there’s that threat, and in order that’s the very first thing you wanna consider. Particularly with the stomach, it’s a troublesome factor as a result of as soon as once more, every time I get individuals, and I get so many mothers that are available in and say, “Hey, I’m fascinated by a tummy tuck, what do you assume?” The very first thing I’ll at all times inform them is, for those who may be glad and wholesome and dwell a fulfilled life with out going below the knife, then it is best to keep away from surgical procedure. Nonetheless, for those who can’t, there are individuals who come to see me and so they’ve had 4 youngsters and their tummy muscle tissue have been so separated, they really have again ache from it, and so they simply don’t really feel themselves the best way that they wish to really feel, then we will discuss in regards to the specifics of the operation. There are a variety of issues that we will do now although that may flip again the clock, that can provide us a few of these outcomes that we had been on the lookout for that perhaps 20 years in the past, we didn’t have it, we didn’t have, and so ideally if we will attempt to level the affected person in that route, that’s what I attempt to do.

Katie: That is smart. And that’s such a fantastic balanced method. And it looks like fantastic, knowledgeable consent. So, for the individuals who nonetheless do select to undergo with it, they’ve a deeper understanding of the danger concerned, most likely have a greater grasp on restoration and issues they’ll do to assist as properly. However to circle again to this concept of autojuvenation, I really like this as a result of it’s one thing I’ve been researching, at the least the idea of with out having a phrase for it lately. I did lab testing for a corporation I’m contemplating investing in, and I came upon my organic age is definitely nearly 10 years youthful than my chronological age, which was actually thrilling. And in order that’s on a mobile stage.

However I believe for lots of us, there’s additionally that component of the exterior going through and what our pores and skin appears to be like like, particularly, particularly as girls. And so, I believe I might like to delve into the causes of that pores and skin getting old that’s seen after which additionally delve into a few of these issues that you simply train that may assist reverse that.

Anthony: Yeah, so thanks. So, I might have a look at on the whole, I imagine there are 4 main causes of getting old of our pores and skin. The primary main trigger is collagen degradation. Seventy to 80% of our pores and skin consists of collagen. Collagen is principally what precipitated our pores and skin to really feel tight and to really feel robust. And there’s collagen in our pores and skin, in our muscle tissue, in our bones, in our joints, and different elements of our physique. However as we become old, actually beginning within the mid to late 20s, we lose about 1% of the thickness of the collagen of our pores and skin yearly. Ladies after menopause that will increase to about 2% a yr. And that’s why our pores and skin will get thinner as we become old. And so, to attempt to combat that course of is likely one of the elements of autojuvenation.

Second reason for getting old of the pores and skin is oxidation or free radicals. Free radicals are principally unstable molecules which can be created because of simply regular metabolism. Our physique creates naturally free radicals as a byproduct of simply being alive. However we will get attacked by greater than that relying on what our way of life is. So, consuming a variety of extremely processed and processed meals will improve our physique’s quantity of free radicals that it has to cope with. Fried meals additionally free radicals. Even extreme stress has been discovered to extend free radicals. And when you’ve got too many free radicals attacking your physique on the identical time, it could possibly truly injury the DNA in your pores and skin and that may trigger untimely getting old. In order that’s quantity two.

The third reason for getting old is irritation. And irritation may be acute, or it may be power. Acute irritation can truly be a very good factor. Once you get a reduce and your physique reacts to the reduce by creating some irritation to heal that reduce, that’s truly a very good factor. Typically doing sure issues, like let’s say getting a laser remedy or a chemical peel may be acute irritation and that may trigger the pores and skin truly to be younger afterwards and the collagen to be tighter and younger showing and molecularly as properly.

And so, a power irritation just isn’t a very good factor. And power irritation, one of many main causes of that’s sugar. And we all know sugar causes irritation since you get sugar spikes may cause insulin spikes, insulin spikes can create power irritation. And so, sugar is sort of one of many large causes of irritation. After which the opposite reason for irritation are superior glycation finish merchandise or AGEs. Sugar as soon as once more is a big wrongdoer right here as a result of when sugar is introduced into the physique, particularly when it’s in extreme quantities, it could possibly truly bond to the collagen of our pores and skin and trigger the collagen, which usually is, the best way I described, it’s just like the logs of a log cabin. Collagen are these fibros which can be usually sort of caught collectively and are good and agency. However when sugar bonds to that collagen, it could possibly trigger these logs to grow to be frayed and that collagen to grow to be principally kinked. And that may trigger untimely getting old. So, irritation by superior glycation finish merchandise, which is when the sugar will connect the collagen, creating these AGEs and by power irritation, usually by sugar spikes and insulin spikes.

After which the fourth factor, fourth reason for getting old of our pores and skin is principally a buildup of mobile waste. And this is likely one of the issues that lots of people extra in conventional drugs don’t actually pay a lot consideration to. You will have dermatologists speaking about utilizing lotions to your pores and skin, however they don’t discuss attempting to get that technique of autophagy revved up. And our cells, as they’re principally present process metabolism and sort of the traditional day by day life, will create mobile waste. And that waste must be taken care of, recycled, even reused utilizing a course of referred to as autophagy. And that’s intracellular principally recycling or renewal. And that solely happens when you find yourself not consuming. And so, taking time to not eat, to quick, can truly trigger that course of to happen by eliminating that intracellular waste. Our cells then operate extra effectively and successfully, and that is also anti-aging as properly.

Katie: That’s fascinating. And it undoubtedly leads into the query of what we will do about it, which I can guess a couple of of the attainable issues we will do primarily based on the best way you clarify that. Issues like fasting in a approach that’s acceptable for our hormones, lowering our stress stage, being conscious of what we eat, and possibly consuming extra nourishing meals, much less extremely processed meals. However I’m certain there’s rather more that goes into it from there. Based mostly on what you mentioned, I’m wondering if individuals may be pondering are collagen dietary supplements a good suggestion? Are there every other dietary supplements apart from simply collagen that may assist collagen and wholesome collagen matrix within the pores and skin? So, I’d like to delve into that. What are issues we will do at dwelling that assist battle every of these completely different causes?

Anthony: Precisely. And in my guide, Youthful for Life, I’ve principally a three-week jumpstart that comes with all of it. And so, the best way I have a look at it’s it’s food plan, it’s what to eat, when to eat, dietary supplements to take, and skincare merchandise to make use of. And for those who deal with these as sort of the first factor, then that may get you actually began. And we’ve got this 21-day jumpstart the place for 21 days, you principally deal with these 4 issues, you’ll be able to actually flip again and see big adjustments in your pores and skin.

So so far as normal issues, you talked about collagen dietary supplements. Collagen dietary supplements are very controversial. I’ve bought an enormous TikTok viewers, and I posted on collagen dietary supplements, and I’ve people who find themselves saying, “Oh, my physician mentioned collagen dietary supplements don’t work, your physique received’t take up it, it will get damaged down within the abdomen.” The actual fact is that collagen, once you purchase collagen, you wish to be sure that it’s in collagen, hydrolyzed collagen peptides, basically. So, collagen is an enormous protein. And for those who simply ingest collagen on the whole, your physique, sure, will break it down. Once you have a look at collagen dietary supplements, that’s why collagen dietary supplements, the perfect ones, are hydrolyzed collagen peptides, as a result of it takes that collagen, that vast protein, and it breaks it down into tiny little peptides and amino acids that your physique can truly take up. So, your physique does take up hydrolyzed collagen peptide dietary supplements, and there are research which have checked out it. There are a plethora of research which have proven helpful impacts in your pores and skin with collagen. In actual fact, I’ll simply identify one, which was a meta-analysis again in 2021 of 1,100 sufferers who took 90 days of hydrolyzed collagen dietary supplements, and so they discovered a statistically important enchancment in wrinkles, pores and skin elasticity, and pores and skin hydration. So, you’re taking a look at 1,100, this can be a meta-analysis, so this can be a mixture of a number of research. There are randomized managed scientific trials completed with collagen discovering principally all the identical issues. And a few of them will truly take biopsies of the collagen two months after any individual begins taking collagen dietary supplements and seeing a rise within the thickness of the collagen of that pores and skin.

Katie: That’s fascinating. And does bone broth match into that class as properly? I do know there’s a variety of discuss by like Dr. Kate Shanahan and others of those conventional meals that we largely have faraway from our fashionable diets that appear to be extraordinarily rejuvenating. Does bone broth match into that class as properly?

Anthony: It does. Now, apparently, bone broth makes a variety of sense, however there aren’t any research that I do know of which were carried out which have truly checked out bone broth and pores and skin. That being mentioned, what’s bone broth? You simmer all of the completely different, whether or not it’s the toes or the cartilage or any of these physique elements, for 48 to 72 hours. The massive factor with bone broth is it’s chock stuffed with collagen, however there are a variety of completely different bone broths on the market. And one method to inform whether or not it does have a variety of collagen is for those who warmth it up, it turns into principally that soup. However for those who let it cool, if it hardens or sort of solidifies into gelatin, that gelatin is definitely collagen. And also you’ll know then that if it’s bought these sort of two phases, relying on the temperature, that most certainly you’ve bought a very good bone broth there. Now, bone broth is full of collagen, so it does make sense that for those who ingest it, that that ought to enhance the collagen of your pores and skin. I might say that it ought to, however there aren’t any true scientific research that I do know of which have both confirmed it or disproven it.

Katie: Acquired it. And also you talked about TikTok. I’ll hyperlink to yours within the present notes so individuals can discover you since you do publish a variety of actually useful content material on there. I do know one other factor that has appeared to go viral on TikTok on the whole is the significance of hydration for pores and skin look. And I’m curious your tackle this. I’m presently an enormous fan of including minerals to our hydration as a result of minerals are necessary, I believe, for hormones and sleep and lots of different issues as properly. However are there any research or have you ever seen in apply a profit for individuals truly enhancing their hydration ranges and that benefiting their look of their pores and skin?

Anthony: I believe on the whole, there’s enchancment. I don’t know of any precise research which have checked out it. I imply, we additionally have a look at topicals. Once you have a look at, let’s say, moisturizers you’re sort of doing the identical factor. You’re attempting to lock that hydration into your pores and skin. However the best way I might describe that, I truly had an individual ask me, “Dr. Youn, you’ve talked about 4 causes of getting old of the pores and skin. Why isn’t hydration a kind of, or dehydration?” And the very fact is, is that dehydration isn’t essentially gonna age your pores and skin on a mobile stage, per se. Now, for those who’re dehydrated, sure, your pores and skin can get drier. It might look extra wrinkled. You’ll be able to look older. However the reality is, is that’s not technically older pores and skin on a mobile stage. So, I undoubtedly advocate general hydrating. I believe, within the normal, a glass of water is nice, however you additionally ideally wanna sort of get extra particular with it. I do assume the minerals are implausible. And also you solely have to ask skilled athletes, faculty athletes. So a lot of them now know that it’s not simply ingesting water or, God forbid, Gatorade. It’s ingesting water and including these particular minerals into it could possibly actually assist forestall individuals from cramping. I truly put minerals in my water the mornings that I function. As I’m getting older, I’m discovering that my fingers sometimes will truly cramp up. And so, I began placing minerals in my water each morning, and I’ve that additionally at lunchtime after I’m between operations and stuff, and it actually helps me, too.

Katie: I used to be fascinated to learn this statistic as a result of if we give it some thought, we’re typically informed we’re 60 no matter % water, however actually as people we’re that proportion of salt water or like mineral-rich water and that’s necessary for electrical communication and a lot. And I learn that an individual who lives in a sizzling local weather or an athlete will lose extra minerals in 5 years than the common particular person will in a complete lifetime. And so that basically helped me understand like that is one thing to be intentional about replenishing if I’m going to maintain doing all these actions that launch all these minerals by sweat. I additionally wish to circle again to autophagy and see if there are any good normal tips for type of maximizing fasting or intermittent fasting for the pores and skin well being facet particularly.

Anthony: Yeah, one of many issues that I encourage individuals to do, as a result of some individuals will quick for weight reduction. Some individuals will quick for hormones. Some individuals will quick, they’ve bought many, many causes, however after I’m taking a look at fasting purely from my perspective with my followers, my sufferers, it comes right down to anti-aging. And so, one of many issues that I like to recommend, and everyone fasts slightly bit in another way. I attempt to encourage individuals to do a minimal. Now, a variety of my followers usually are not fairly as holistically educated as yours. And so, for me, I attempt to encourage my followers to simply begin with the fundamentals. And so, if all you begin off with is a 12-hour in a single day quick, that’s okay. You recognize, that’s an enormous begin for some individuals. Ideally attempting to get that to a 16-hour quick. So, you cease consuming at 8 p.m. and you then don’t eat till midday the subsequent day is what I attempt to encourage individuals to do. A part of the 21-day jumpstart in my guide does include intermittent fasting.

One of many issues that I’ve, that we’ve seen work very well, was that on the day you break the quick, as a substitute of simply going again to your regular food plan, you go to an autophagy supporting food plan, okay? And what I imply by that’s that we do know that there are specific meals, despite the fact that you break the quick, you should still be capable to promote autophagy and that autophagy persevering with. And we all know that for those who eat roughly 25 grams or extra of protein a day, that may cease autophagy together with carbs. So, protein and carbs actually decelerate or cease the autophagy course of. Wholesome fat, nonetheless, don’t. So, there are two kinds of meals that may truly promote autophagy that you would be able to eat and theoretically proceed that autophagy course of throughout the remainder of that day. And people are wholesome fat like omega-3 fatty acids and monounsaturated fatty acids and meals which can be full of polyphenols. So basically, you’re taking a look at omega-3 fatty acid wealthy meals, so chilly water fish, salmon, mackerel, trout, tuna, anchovies, that kind of factor. When you have a look at monounsaturated fatty acids, you then’re speaking about nuts and seeds. After which for those who’re taking a look at attempting to push polyphenol-rich meals, which polyphenols seem to additionally assist promote the autophagy course of, these are sort of just like the darkish coloured fruits, like blackberries, plums, blueberries, strawberries, even black beans. And so, what we’ve completed with the 21-day jumpstart is on these days and also you break the quick, as a substitute of going again to regular food plan, you go on this basically autophagy food plan to proceed that technique of autophagy, basically till you’ve got a daily breakfast the next morning. And we discovered that to be actually efficient for individuals.

Katie: That’s fascinating. And it is smart as a result of your physique can be in a heightened sense of with the ability to take up issues and also you’re placing actually wealthy, nutrient-dense issues into your physique that it will be willingly uptaking. I’ve seen too, I’ve completed a variety of longer fasts, and I’ve talked on right here about that earlier than. And I discover that a couple of days into a quick, I truly will begin craving these precise meals that you simply talked about, particularly as I’ve gotten increasingly used to fasting. I might crave anchovies and raspberries and sort of odd meals. However it is smart once you clarify it that approach. It’s like my physique was most likely prepared for these meals to come back again in and to have the ability to take up them.

I do know one other controversial matter on the subject of the subject of getting old and pores and skin particularly is the subject of daylight publicity. And I’ve been an enormous proponent on right here of issues like morning daylight for circadian rhythm and hormonal steadiness. And I personally have some genes the place if I take vitamin D dietary supplements, my vitamin D ranges don’t change. So, I do must get some from the solar. However we additionally know that an excessive amount of solar, in fact, can prematurely age the pores and skin. So, I’m curious your tackle that and what you discover is an efficient steadiness. I have a tendency to simply put on a hat if I’m within the solar, however I really like the sensation of sunshine on the remainder of my pores and skin. So how do you assist individuals or what do you advise on that?

Anthony: So, I believe that like with a variety of issues in life, moderation is the important thing. I’ve mates of mine who’re dermatologists who each morning, it might be cloudy out and so they could also be sitting in a basement all day, however they’ll put their sunscreen on. After which I’ve holistic well being mates of mine who’re anti-sunscreen. I’ll let you know for me, I believe that there’s a good glad medium there someplace. Primary, doctor, particularly as a plastic surgeon, I’ve seen horrific pores and skin most cancers points in sufferers of mine and even mates of mine the place they get a pores and skin most cancers, they get Mohs surgical procedure, and half their nostril is gone afterwards. And so they come to me and I’m taking a look at like, how do I reconstruct this? I imply, for those who get a pores and skin most cancers in your face, it may be completely devastating. And so, you wanna do what you’ll be able to to forestall that, particularly for those who’ve bought lighter coloured pores and skin and also you’re at larger threat.

So undoubtedly I encourage individuals general to put on sunblock, at the least an SPF of 30, particularly once you’re gonna be out within the solar. Nonetheless, I additionally know dwelling in Detroit, how therapeutic it’s to get the solar in your face, to see the daylight within the morning, and to actually get that solar. I imply, we escape to the Caribbean usually each winter as a result of man, it’s simply powerful right here within the wintertime. So, I do assume that there’s a cheerful medium there. I believe that monitoring your vitamin D ranges, I believe is unquestionably necessary. Ideally carrying the sunscreen, particularly for those who’re gonna be out, however on the identical time, additionally getting that solar that you simply want to your personal psychological well being and to your non secular well being and to your interior well being as properly. So, I believe that there’s a cheerful medium there. I don’t assume it’s important to go excessive a method or one other.

Katie: That’s a fantastic perspective. And also you talked about collagen dietary supplements. I’m curious if there are every other dietary supplements that you simply advocate on the whole. I do know there’s a very personalised facet to any type of supplementation, however I might guess there are some which can be thought of typically supportive of pores and skin well being getting old.

Anthony: Yeah, so one of many elements of the 21-day jumpstart is a quite simple complement routine that I like to recommend principally for everyone. So, the primary one is gonna be the collagen complement. The second is gonna be a multivitamin. The third one is gonna be omega-3 fatty acids. So as soon as once more, utilizing one thing that’s high-quality omega-3s, I believe it’s tremendous necessary. What we do know is that these are wholesome fat that may truly create a discount of irritation contained in the physique. And one of many 4 essential causes of pores and skin getting old is irritation. And that’s one of many large issues that you are able to do to combat that. So, omega-3 fatty acids, ideally from fish. When you’re vegan, then go together with the allergy base, that’s superb.

After which a day by day probiotic, I believe is essential. An increasing number of we’re studying that there’s a connection between the intestine and our pores and skin. And there’s a gut-skin axis that we’re studying increasingly about. And there are precise research now which can be correlating sure points or situations that you’ve within the intestine, like let’s say inflammatory or IBS with inflammatory pores and skin points. And so, taking a day by day probiotic, the concept clearly is, and also you’ve talked about this in your present earlier than, however helpful micro organism in your intestine, the well being of the intestine will actually present within the well being of your pores and skin.

After which the ultimate factor I like to recommend is simply taking an antioxidant complement of a wide range of antioxidants. We all know that our produce, our vegatables and fruits, would not have the identical vitamin now than they did 50 years in the past. There truly was a research, I’m undecided for those who’ve talked about this in your podcast earlier than, however they really checked out our produce from the years 1950 to 1999. So, 49 years’ value of produce. And so they checked out how a lot dietary worth the produce had yearly. And that dietary worth decreased yearly in six essential vitamins. And people embody vitamin C, protein, and iron. And so undoubtedly as soon as once more, taking let’s say a day by day antioxidant complement may help with these tyes of potential nutrient deficiencies.

Katie: And I really like that you simply tackle the interior aspect in such an in depth approach. I really feel like typically within the skincare dialog, the interior aspect will get neglected. And I’ve had this dialog equally within the oral healthcare area with creating my toothpaste and all of the analysis that went into that and realizing we consider the mouth as type of this remoted a part of our physique, however it’s so interconnected. And it’s not simply conserving our tooth clear by brushing and flossing, which is in fact necessary, however it’s issues just like the fat-soluble vitamin content material in our physique and the mineral content material in our physique and the way these issues are interacting in our saliva to have the ability to create mineral steadiness in our mouth.

And I might guess there’s additionally this facet on the subject of pores and skin well being, the place all these items we’ve got in our physique, in fact, are gonna feed our pores and skin from the within out. After which in fact, there are issues we will do from the surface in. So, on the subject of skincare, what are some good normal tips for individuals to concentrate on to sort of battle these indicators of getting old?

Anthony: And I believe what you mentioned hits it proper on the nail. Dermatologists historically focus simply on skincare and holistic well being consultants focus simply on the intestine. And I’ve mates of mine who’re like, “Oh, you need your pores and skin to be higher, focus in your intestine.” And it’s like, properly, you are able to do each. You’ll be able to focus in your intestine, and you need to use the proper skincare. And ideally that’s the way you wish to deal with it. And I don’t know of lots of people speaking about each. So, I respect asking a query.

What I normally advocate for people who find themselves saying, “Hey, what do I do for a easy skincare routine that I do know is gonna work?” And also you don’t have to spend so much of time. You don’t must do a 12-step Korean skincare routine. When you hold it to the fundamentals, that technically is sufficient. So, each morning you wanna cleanse your pores and skin with a cleanser acceptable to your pores and skin kind. When you’ve bought oily pores and skin, then ideally a foaming-type cleanser will assist to cut back a few of that extra oil. When you’ve bought dry pores and skin, then use a milky or hydrating cleanser.

After which after that, you wanna use an antioxidant serum. Vitamin C is the commonest that the majority skincare corporations have. And the concept is you wanna combat off these free radicals. As soon as once more, one of many 4 essential causes of pores and skin getting old, free radicals, oxidation; antioxidants combat that. So, utilizing an antioxidant serum each morning may be very useful. A bonus is for those who mix vitamin C and vitamin E serums, and a few of them include each of them in a single, they’re discovered to be synergistic in research and preventing free radicals. So, for those who wanna take that to the subsequent stage, not only a vitamin C, do a vitamin C and E serum within the morning.

After which I might comply with that with a sunscreen. As soon as once more, we talked about sort of moderation. When you want slightly little bit of solar, by all means do what you must do to your personal bodily and psychological well being. And that’s all it’s important to technically do within the morning: cleanse, serum, antioxidant serum, and sunscreen.

At evening, you wanna cleanse your pores and skin. When you solely cleanse your pores and skin as soon as a day, be sure it’s at the least at evening since you gotta eliminate the day’s value of mud, air pollution, grime, and your make-up particularly, okay? Positively use a cleanser. Some individuals even double cleanse. We’re utilizing oil cleanser first to eliminate sort of the grime and the oil and the make-up, after which comply with that up along with your normal cleanser afterwards.

And you then wanna apply an anti-aging moisturizer or cream. The one that the majority plastic surgeons and dermatologists advocate, the one which I like to recommend as a place to begin is a retinol. Retinol is a type of vitamin A and might be probably the most scientifically studied anti-aging ingredient that there’s. And the concept behind that’s not solely does it combat getting old, however it additionally causes the pores and skin to show over, it helps to cut back darkish spots, and it could possibly even doubtlessly reverse early pre-skin cancers. So, it’s an enormous deal. And for those who choose one anti-aging cream, then I might choose a retinol. And most skincare merchandise have some type of retinol in them. Of their, let’s say, even cream.

When you wanna apply moisturizer on prime of that, be happy. You recognize, a variety of us, we grew up with our mothers making use of chilly cream at evening. You don’t must cope with chilly cream. Loads of these chilly lotions I’m not an enormous fan of due to all of the perfume and all that that may be irritating to your pores and skin. However for those who wanna apply moisturizer on prime of that, relying on how your pores and skin is, then be happy to do this. However as soon as once more, conserving in thoughts, like hydrating with water, that’s not gonna be anti-aging on a mobile stage, however may be extra for consolation.

After which the ultimate factor is each three days or so, you wanna ideally exfoliate your pores and skin. So, with both a bodily exfoliator, which could be a little scrub, or you are able to do a chemical exfoliation with an alpha hydroxy acid. And technically that’s it. So, morning, you cleanse, you apply an antioxidant serum, after which a sunscreen, and the night you cleanse, apply an anti-aging cream like a retinol, moisturizer as wanted, after which twice every week or so exfoliate your pores and skin.

Katie: And as you had been explaining that, and that was a fantastic listing, by the best way, I used to be pondering too, these are additionally nutrient deficiencies that always exist in Individuals, particularly internally. Like we’ve seen our ranges of necessary issues like vitamin C, like vitamin A decline, particularly with age and particularly with the way you defined our meals has misplaced nutrient density over time. So, it is smart, such as you’re saying, take a multifaceted method, nourish your self from the within out to offer your physique these vitamins, after which additionally apply them to the pores and skin. And you then’re sort of hitting each side of it and giving your physique the perfect likelihood at, such as you mentioned, this isn’t that we’re doing one thing to the physique, it’s serving to the physique do what it already is aware of methods to do.

Anthony: And that’s precisely what I imply by the entire technique of autojuvenation. It’s taking all of these issues that perhaps no one has actually put all collectively and saying, “Hey, you understand what, we will put all this collectively and we will flip again the clock, really feel higher, look higher, have higher vitality.” And for those who wanna take another steps, you understand, there are different issues you are able to do like pink gentle remedy at dwelling. That’s an effective way to additionally assist to show again the clock of your pores and skin. Some individuals do dermaplaning, which basically is a remedy we do within the workplace the place you take away a layer of lifeless pores and skin cells, and you are able to do that at dwelling. There’s a lot that you are able to do that doesn’t entail injections or surgical procedure.

Katie: I really like that. That was going to be one in all my follow-up questions as properly was, is pink gentle helpful? It’s one thing I’ve experimented with. I believe even helpful for thyroid well being for me personally was a factor I seen. And now there are such a lot of dwelling gadgets which can be rather more reasonably priced than they was once and that may make that, such as you mentioned, a house remedy as properly.

Anthony: And there are research, plenty of research that do present helpful results of pink gentle remedy remedies on the standard of your pores and skin. The query, the research haven’t appeared on the precise mechanism. We expect that which will assist with the mitochondria and serving to with general having your cells basically be extra superpowered basically. We don’t know 100% for certain if that’s what causes the anti-aging, the bodily advantages so far as in your pores and skin, however we do know that there are a number of research that present that the pores and skin does look younger for those who do common pink gentle remedy remedies on it.

Katie: Nice to know. I’m additionally curious, one other factor that appears to be circulating TikTok is the development of doing several types of like lymphatic or facial therapeutic massage, the place I’ve completed for years dry brushing on the remainder of my physique, not a lot my face. I’m curious if there’s any significance to that that you simply’ve seen in your work. I might guess these are at the least most likely not dangerous practices, whether or not or not they’re tremendous efficient may be up for debate. I simply seen, for example, if I do lymphatic therapeutic massage on my face earlier than mattress, I are inclined to sleep very well. And if I do dry brushing within the morning, I get a burst of vitality. However past that, do you are feeling like there’s something helpful to it?

Anthony: So, I believe what you get with each of these is you do get the, principally you get your lymph channels extra lively. And so, we’ve got lymph channels in our physique, for individuals don’t fairly perceive what that’s, is, you understand, we’ve bought blood vessels, we’ve got veins and arteries that transfer blood, however there’s truly a separate system of sort of like, like vessels basically which can be referred to as lymph and lymph basically strikes immune cells and excessive protein kind of fluid by our physique. And so, after we develop, let’s say we’ve got irritation of the physique, you understand, both from an harm or generally it’s from consuming the improper meals and stuff like that, then you’ll be able to develop fluid that sort of builds up and it builds up and also you don’t eliminate that fluid. You’ll be able to’t push it out by the arteries and veins. You push it out by the lymphatic system. And that’s what lots of people like with dry brushing. The rationale why you don’t dry brush from the within out is since you wish to push that fluid in direction of the route of the lymphatics. After I do surgical procedure on individuals, we attempt to have individuals therapeutic massage in direction of the route of these lymphatics to assist transfer that fluid by. So, utilizing, let’s say a gua sha gadget, utilizing, let’s say a jade curler, that’s what that’s doing helps to maneuver that fluid by. Now, for those who add that with sure issues like coolness, lots of people put their jade curler within the fridge or the freezer, then you may as well assist to shrink a number of the pores and skin down briefly.

As soon as once more, we’re not speaking a couple of long-term kind of a change, however you’ll be able to see some good enhancements. So, for those who’re going to go to, let’s say, a category reunion and also you wish to perform a little gua sha previous to going out, that may assist snatch your neckline slightly bit extra and enable you to really feel higher about your look then, by all means, that’s good. Dry brushing, although, additionally provides on prime of that, although, the good thing about exfoliation of our pores and skin. You recognize, Koreans have completed that kind of factor for a whole lot of years, however they’re not good. You recognize, for those who’ve ever been to a Korean spa, it’s not only a dry brush. They take what basically appears to be like like sandpaper and so they simply rub your physique from head to toe with it. Some individuals adore it, some individuals hate it as a result of it’s painful, however afterward, your pores and skin’s gonna really feel easy as a child’s butt.

Katie: I’ve gotten to have that have as soon as and it was fairly the expertise, however I don’t assume the tip of my grownup life has ever felt so mushy because it did after that. So, I might be within the class of people that adore it. Curious from a extra superior perspective too, I believe all of these items are so foundational and necessary for everybody.

I typically discuss this; the easy issues can typically be neglected due to their simplicity. Even when somebody desires to do the extra superior biohacks, I at all times say get gentle dialed in first, get sleep dialed in, get vitamin dialed in, as a result of anything you do goes to be more practical anyway. However don’t simply leap to the costly shiny objects first, since you’re going to get a greater bang to your buck for those who do the foundational issues first. So, I might guess there’s very a lot an identical factor on the subject of pores and skin remedies. However I do know that at the least from the web, I’ve seen there’s dozens at the least choices of extra superior skincare remedies individuals can do both at dwelling or in workplace. And I might love to listen to your tackle those which can be truly efficient and price it or perhaps any that aren’t actually value it and or perhaps extra dangerous to keep away from.

Anthony: Yeah, so I imply, the very first thing is after I have a look at it’s a bang to your buck. And the issue that we’ve got in beauty drugs proper now’s that there are such a lot of gadgets on the market. And the gadget corporations will promote their gadgets to shoppers attempting to sort of stress docs and med spots to purchase them saying, “Oh, for those who use this, you then’re going to get extra individuals within the door.” And it turns into a scenario the place if all you’ve got is a hammer, all the pieces appears to be like like a nail, and it’s important to be as a client, it’s essential to concentrate on this.

So, for those who’re going to get a beauty remedy completed, you wish to just remember to go to a spot that has a plethora of choices accessible for you, in order that they don’t simply select the one gadget they’ve that they use on everyone. They select a tool that’s going to work greatest for you. I might begin with the fundamentals. When you’re new to the cosmic area and also you say, “Hey, look, I’ve been doing all the pieces that you simply’re speaking about, Dr. Youn. I’m doing the food plan stuff. I’m intermittent fasting. I’m utilizing the skincare and dietary supplements, however I’ve bought these spots that simply received’t go away. And so they actually, I really feel like I’d prefer to clear my pores and skin up. What are you able to do this’s not going to be costly or tremendous painful?” Very first thing I might advocate can be to begin on a brightening cream. Brightening cream that comprises kojic acid, niacinamide, and/or licorice root extract. That may assist with the darkish spots from the within out. However if you wish to take that to the subsequent stage, take into account IPL remedies, Intense Pulse Mild. This is sort of a laser. The factor with IPL that’s nice is that the gadgets usually are not tremendous costly to buy, and a variety of locations have them. It’s chemical free. So, to your listeners who’re actually desirous to attempt to keep away from extra chemical substances within the setting, that is actually simply gentle that may truly zap the darkish spots, trigger them to show darker, and inside a couple of week, they begin to slup off. You mix that with a very good pure brightening cream and that may actually goal these spots properly. In order that’s for spots.

When you’re on the lookout for general simply facial rejuvenation, microneedling is an effective way to do this. Microneedling, I believe, is large with autojuvenation as a result of it basically is utilizing your physique’s personal therapeutic mechanisms to really flip again the clock. I discussed earlier, collagen in our pores and skin, they’re sort of just like the logs of a log cabin. They’re these fibrils that stick collectively. And as we become old, they grow to be extra kinked, and so they begin to disintegrate a bit. And any of the remedies that we do, whether or not it’s laser, chemical peels, microneedling, we’re inflicting a managed trauma to the pores and skin. That trauma to the collagen causes the collagen because it heals to heal again in a tighter trend. Primarily like placing these logs again tightly into that log cabin. When the remedy is so aggressive that it’s too damaging, then you may get scarring, and we don’t wanna go that far, clearly.

Microneedling is a good remedy that could be very cheap in comparison with different kinds of remedies as a result of the gadget that we use to do it actually prices us perhaps $3,000 or $4,000 to buy, which within the scheme of beauty drugs in comparison with $200,000 for a laser just isn’t that dangerous. And what that does, it makes tiny little pokes within the floor of the pores and skin, creating that acute irritation, inflicting the collagen to tighten up. When you wanna take that one step additional, then you’ll be able to apply PRP to the floor of your pores and skin and that comprises development components. PRP principally, what we do is we draw your blood, we spin it down, take away the platelets, that are chock stuffed with your personal pure development components. After which once you do the microneedling, principally these tiny little holes which can be made by these tiny little needles go to the deeper pores and skin. When you do it in a short time after the microneedling and also you apply that PRP on the floor of your pores and skin, it’s going to seep into these tiny little holes to basically rejuvenate your pores and skin from the within out. And that is all pure. It’s simply utilizing your physique’s personal regenerative processes. And that additionally, as soon as once more, in comparison with 1000’s of {dollars} for a laser or a deep, deep chemical peel, a lot, a lot inexpensive.

Katie: That’s nice to know. And I do know you go into much more depth in your guide, which I wish to be sure we talked about, it’s referred to as Youthful for Life. And I’ll put that hyperlink within the present notes as properly, since you get very detailed and you’ve got that complete, I imagine, 21-day plan in there. And so, there’s a variety of actually detailed information in there.

However I might additionally like to get your type of speedy fireplace tackle a number of the extra controversial issues associated to cosmetic surgery and all that goes with it. I suppose the primary one can be issues like laser hair elimination since you talked about lasers are dearer. I do know there’s ache concerned with that one, good or dangerous or detached so far as impact on the physique and what you advocate or don’t there.

Anthony: I believe that may be very useful for sure individuals, particularly for those who’ve bought points with folliculitis, for those who’ve bought points with ingrown hairs, then that may be very useful. Generally, we advocate going to a dermatologist or plastic surgeon’s workplace, however there at the moment are at-home laser hair elimination gadgets which have grow to be fairly efficient. And so, if, let’s say you reside in an space and also you don’t have entry to a physician, look into a few of these at-home laser hair gadgets, as a result of it may be, as soon as once more, fairly efficient.

Katie: And so far as I do know, there’s none that work very well for gentle coloured hair. That’s the draw back for me.

Anthony: That’s the challenge, is you want pigment within the hair as a result of the precise lasers goal colours. Principally, they create warmth primarily based off of the colour. And so most laser hair elimination gadgets, the colour is brown. And so, it really works very well with gentle pores and skin, darkish hair. When you’ve bought gentle pores and skin and lightweight hair doesn’t work as properly, sadly. And also you don’t actually have any, apart from electrolysis, there aren’t every other nice choices for it sadly.

Katie: Okay, that’s what I believed, however good to know and confirm. The subsequent semi extra controversial one I might ask about is Botox. I do know that is undoubtedly widespread amongst a variety of the age teams, at the least the people who find themselves listening. It’s one thing I’ve at all times had a variety of hesitation round, simply having recovered from autoimmune illness. I’m not a fan of placing something that my physique could not acknowledge in my physique, however I do know many ladies do go for Botox. So, what’s your tackle Botox and if execs, cons, what to weigh?

Anthony: So, it’s the preferred beauty remedy within the historical past of the world. About 5 million or extra individuals bear Botox yearly. You might not have identified this as we discuss. I’ve some like proper right here. And what Botox does is it’s a neurotoxin. It’s some of the highly effective toxins within the universe that we all know of. However for those who inject within the tiniest quantity within the muscle tissue, it’s going to forestall the nerve transmission to these muscle tissue and trigger these muscle tissue to not work for about three or 4 months. And for those who inject it into wrinkles, just like the entrance lens between the eyebrows, the brow, or the crow’s toes, it could possibly trigger these wrinkles, basically, these muscle tissue, to then chill out and people wrinkles to easy out.

There are a handful of individuals on-line who do really feel that they’ve had systemic reactions to Botox, to the place they’ve had sure kinds of diseases. I’ve completed a variety of analysis into it. In my apply, we most likely handled 5,000 – 10,000 individuals minimal with Botox. I’ve by no means had a serious complication from it of these 5,000, 10,000 individuals, not one. However we do know that Botox, when it’s injected, can truly get into the cerebral spinal fluid. There have been research which have checked out mice and discovering that. So, you understand, I believe with something, it’s gonna be a threat profit evaluation. I’m not a fan of younger individuals getting Botox as prophylaxis. I believe that’s loopy. There are people who find themselves encouraging that. I believe that for those who’ve bought these traces, they actually trouble you, you wanna attempt it, begin small, begin within the frown traces between the brows, and you may at all times add extra later if you need.

Katie: That is smart. And I’m actually not one to evaluate if anyone chooses to do this. The one I might say doesn’t look like a fantastic thought to me. And hopefully this isn’t a development that’s catching on. I’ve seen individuals injecting it into their lure muscle tissue to make their neck look thinner. And to me, activating a complete muscle doesn’t look like the perfect thought.

Anthony: Yeah, I imply that you understand what that’s, is that there are docs on the market who’re utilizing the Barbie phenomenon to attempt to earn a living. And so, the concept is it’s Entice Tox or Barbie Tox is what they’re calling it to attempt to get a Barbie neck. There’s at all times docs on the market, sadly, who’re attempting to govern social media and their followers to get stuff that basically isn’t all that useful for them. And a part of it’s to allow them to get within the information. You recognize, it’s a clout factor. Persons are doing it for clout. And it’s unlucky. You recognize, it’s the identical factor with a few of them recommending like Barbie makeovers. When you do all these operations to appear like Barbie. And it’s simply because the Barbie film was so widespread.

However ultimately, with traditional surgical procedure, much less is extra. I inform my sufferers, you by no means remorse traditional surgical procedure that you simply didn’t do. You solely remorse the work that you simply did that you simply perhaps shouldn’t have had completed. So actually at all times give it some thought. And I’m a plastic surgeon. I do a variety of surgical procedure, however the factor is you wish to use surgical procedure at all times as a final resort. And sadly, that’s not the case for lots of docs on the market. It’s very disappointing.

Katie: And one other much more controversial one, in fact, is breast implants. And I’ve had individuals on right here, each docs and individuals who have skilled signs like a breast implant sickness. So, I’m curious your tackle that and any suggestions you’ve got earlier than, throughout, after, or on the whole.

Anthony: So yeah, I used to be one of many first plastic surgeons to go public that I imagine breast implant sickness is actual. And I had a variety of my colleagues very indignant with me. You recognize, I went by my conventional coaching and was informed dogma in my coaching is that breast implants don’t make individuals sick. And a variety of plastic surgeons appeared on the moratorium being lifted on silicone breast implants again in 2006, 2007, as being proof that implants are secure.

The actual fact is, once you have a look at literature exterior of the cosmetic surgery scientific literature, you have a look at the rheumatology literature, and there are undoubtedly research and surveys and case experiences of people that do get sick from their implants. And once you take implants out of any individual who believes they’ve breast implant sickness, about 55 to 85 % of them, their signs will enhance with these implants taken out. I do imagine and I do know a variety of holistic well being influencers who’ve breast implants, a few of them we’re mates with, frequent mates with, and so they’re wholesome with them, however that’s not everyone. And I believe it’s a person course of. We have to know extra about it and sufferers should be knowledgeable of it. The horrible factor, although, is I do know that there are plastic surgeons on the market telling sufferers that after they come to them and I’ve sufferers inform me this, I went to see this physician, I informed him I believe my implants are making me sick and he mentioned I have to see a psychiatrist. Not get my implants out. I have to see a psychiatrist. It’s maddening.

Katie: Wow. Nicely, thanks for clearing that up. And I’m glad to listen to on so many of those ranges that there are such a lot of choices individuals can do even from dwelling that may make a noticeable distinction. I believe that’s actually encouraging information. And I really like that it comes from you being able to advocate each and with the ability to do the extra superior procedures as properly that you simply’re nonetheless the voice of claiming, and there’s these items you are able to do that aren’t surgical and surgical procedure may not be the reply. I really like such a balanced viewpoint. And I really like that you’ve been this voice for therefore many ladies. And a few questions I like to ask for the tip of interviews. The primary being if there’s a guide or variety of books which have had a profound impression on you personally, and if that’s the case, what they’re and why.

Anthony: So, I learn the guide, How To not Die, and I’m not vegan or plant-based, however I actually discovered that one modified my outlook, and actually helped to push me to jot down the guide that I wrote, Youthful for Life. And the rationale why I believe I discovered it so fascinating is as a result of it was so primarily based in research and references. And that was one thing that for me, I believed, you understand what, if I’m gonna write a guide, I wanna have my guide be as well-researched as his. Now, as soon as once more, I’m not plant primarily based. And a number of the issues that Dr. Greger has in his guide, I disagree with, however I do admire that he did go the additional route and that all the pieces in there has proof behind it, as a result of there are such a lot of books on the market that simply put individuals’s opinions on the market and there’s no precise proof behind it. And the truth that he does embody all these references and all the pieces, to me, that was an enormous deal.

Katie: I’ll embody a hyperlink to that within the present notes as properly. And lastly, any parting recommendation for the listeners that could possibly be associated to the issues we’ve talked about or completely unrelated recommendation.

Anthony: Yeah, my essential recommendation is that you would be able to appear and feel your greatest with out going below the knife. When you simply stick to the ideas of autojuvenation: food plan, what to eat, when to eat, dietary supplements, and skincare. When you simply stick to that, you’re going to be forward of 98% of individuals. When you add a few of these different issues we talked about, pink gentle remedy, dermaplaning, for those who take note of your sleep, the proper kinds of train, cut back your environmental exposures, and also you’ll be even farther. So, deal with these issues first. When you’re fascinated by cosmetic surgery, do that different stuff first earlier than you go see a plastic surgeon as a result of hopefully you could discover that by doing all this, your want to see a plastic surgeon goes away.

Katie: Nicely, I respect all these items that you simply’ve shared with us on this podcast, like I mentioned, I do know there’s a lot extra in your guide, so extremely advocate you guys test that out. There’s an absolute wealth of information in there. Thanks a lot to your time. This has been such a enjoyable dialog and I’m so grateful we bought you coming.

Anthony: Thanks a lot, Katie, respect it.

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